Posts by Band on the Run

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Have you answered the knock on your door?

by Inkie in

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have you answered the knock on your door?.

[b]e like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks.luke 12:36.. .

behold, i stand at the door and [song 5:2 ] knock.

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Only when I don't know it is them. My NY apt had good security. Both NY and where I live now are private property. Without a name and phone number that i can confirm, I call the police. After all these years, my rage is so great I just can't say more than I was raised a Witness but I studied my Bible by myself and know for certainty that they lie. They are prob. good people but they better leave immediately.

An atypical witness engaged me at a local train station. I told her my family's experiences and my academic studies at Columbia University and life-long interest in the Bible. She seemed to be educated. I was able to keep my voice and comments calm. Four days later, a handwritten note appeared. Despite my credentials, she was certain I would want to learn from her. Why not learn from Charles Manson and write an article for publication?

She stood out b/c I also see them all the time at a major American transit station. They are completely withdrawn into themselves and their private conversation. They just sit there, gossiping. Anyone who wanted to purchase a WT or Awake would have to club them to get their attention. When I was a lowly child, I interacted more with people.

Of course, Michael Jackson wit his grabbing crotch never preached to me. The writhing on stage. What a Witness.

I endeavor to separate the individuals from the Society. Feelings of not being safe wash over me for days after they stop by.

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1975, Freddie Franz and Eve's Menstrual Cycle

by Band on the Run in

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i was active back then and terrorized by armageddon.

my basic temperament is introspective.

i never felt worthy enough.

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Thank goodness I left before oral sex. My father was a prude. All the Bethelites seem to be prudes. It takes a disoriented man to see a menstrual cycle as filth. Their marriages must have been strange and challenging to say the least. My father was raised in the Rutherford school of absolute hatred towards women yet not being able to keep hands off women. Repeatedly, Biblical examples were cited indicating the purity and righetousness of men and how women lure them from God.

Altho I was so young, I knew something was up with the focus on sexual matters. It seems they worked hard to raise sexual matters. My intellectual terror of demons ended when the WT printed an article about a demon materializing on some woman's bed in England. Oooooh. Oooooh.

This isn't funny when you are raised by such parents. I had a major grudge against a JW classmate who was given preferential treatment by an asst. overseer. It turns out he was a pedophile. That sobered me. In retrospect, he picked on the more helpless girls, without strong family ties. Still, there but for the grace of God. Packed with his Rutherford ideas, my father would have killed me.

A local nun was brutally raped in our local Catholic church. My mom's work friend was very devout. It happened in her parish. My father publicly announced that the nun deserved to be raped because she was a Catholic nun. This is being Christian at your best. Her friend was Christian enough to understand a terrible marriage. If she repeated it, he probably would have been beat to a pulp or even worse. This was solid Mafia country. Again, no Society official said so but the culture did not stop it, either.

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Who says God is listening to us?

by free2beme in

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what ignorance of us to think it is us that god is listening too.

perhaps it is the ants and the punishment on them is us human jerks who treat them like, 'ants!

' maybe their day will come and god will do their vengence for them and smite us down to make things right with their queen, the god!

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I had the worst pain known to humankind for decades. Suicide rate is more than 95%. God may very well listen but God does not seem to answer. I was admitted to hospice units and saw much. I lived in Manhattan downtown on September 11th. Once I believed God wanted me to prosper. My life was better than I ever could imagine as a Witness. I prayed formally every single day. The Bible was studied for hours. As time goes by and by, science is affirming our animal nature more than our special brains.

I have no answers. My life is an utter catastrophe. When I was younger, I could step on the hamster wheel, and get back on an amazing track. Not now. I am an outcast for something completely beyond my control.

Reading the Bible and praying did bring me some courage. I want to vomit when I hear about how groovy God is.

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Watchtower Attorneys Hayden Covington and Charles Smith

by Scott77 in

does anyone know some bios on those two guys?

are they nice, bad or just ordinary guys in the higher ups of the watchtower hierachy?

please, post some photos of them if available.. .

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I expect Muhammad Ali had many orgs. submit amicus briefs on his behalf. Cassisus Clay was viewed as aligned with the Witnesses on the draft. He was a hero altho he wasn't a Witness. He was so villified at the time. Perhaps b/c of his race and getting out of line, he attracted pure venom. I believe Howard Cossell was the only sportswriter to defend him. Years past and now he is the icnonic American hero. The whole publicity around his participation when he marched and carried the Olympic torch the last stretch blew my mind.

He stayed true to his principles.

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Ph.D Dissertation on Hayden Covington

by VM44 in

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hayden covington, the jehovah\'s witness and their plan to expand first amendment freedoms

jennifer hendrson, ph.d .

university of washington, 2002. .

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My gift is manifestly law and/or politics such as lobbying. The top ranked schools gave me complete merit scholarships. Yet I was a toilet bowl girls for the Witnesses. It reminds of when many whites discriminated against blacks, believing them to be recent descendents of jungle monkeys. Yet black professionals discovered blood plasma and other things that that saved millions of lives. My father was in the process of pulling me out of high schooll when he died. I resolved I would have to leave my mom and siblings to enter a foster home. Wordly people thought I was such a model teen. Not my family or the Witnesses. The fury is present after all these years.

My gut instinct is that the ACLU formulated the strategy. The Witnesses certainly did not tell the ACLU to go away.

I haven't read the mind control books yet. From my perspective, education should make it much easier to see through the WTS caprices. I have a feeling many, many Witnesses have doubts but their people-pleasing behavior keep them in bondage.

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Ph.D Dissertation on Hayden Covington

by VM44 in

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hayden covington, the jehovah\'s witness and their plan to expand first amendment freedoms

jennifer hendrson, ph.d .

university of washington, 2002. .

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I wanted to write my senior thesis in political science concerning Covington. There seemed to be no way to track him down at the time. I wanted anecdotal tales and comments on how he formed legal strategy. My decision to not proceed was motivated by two concerns. First, I knew it would inflame my passions. In New Testament class, I studiously avoided writing papers on topics that were "hot" for Witnesses. I could not be objective and my grade would suffer. Second, I doubted I would find candor.

I am looking forward to assessing this dissertation. Personally, I don't understand how someone who can be a mediocre lawyer or better can learn skills to ask hard questions of statutes, cases, and regulations and still be a zombie. I wonder if they have a wider latitude in their thought process. One thought is that they must certainly enlighten class discussion in law school.

My usual vent concerning Society lawyers. Why was I assigned to bag groceries or clean toilets while someone else is groomed. If one leaves the truth, one person is left with so much richer assets and skills than the other. Jesus was educated for his time period. He manifestly was not poor. A carpenter was solidly upper middle-class. He had the funds to traipse around Israel.

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WTS sues Public Television

by Gayle in

jehovah's witnesses sue ra public televisionjanuary 15, 2011 - 11:40 amt 07:40 gmtpanarmenian.net - the christian religious organization of jehovah's witnesses, as well as representatives of the organization submitted a claim against the public television of armenia, as well as journalists gevorg altunyan, sona torosyan, nune alexanyan to the court of general jurisdiction of kentron and nork-marash administrative districts.. director of the center of rehabilitation and aid for the victims of destructive cults alexander amaryan told a panarmenian.net reporter that jehovahs witnesses accuse the public television of armenia of publishing and disseminating wrong information concerning their honor and dignity.. according to amaryan, court hearings will start in january.. we would like to recall that 23-year-old resident of sevan town arman torosyan, who killed his parents in november 2010, was declared a member of the organization of jehovahs witnesses.. while the organization will try to prove during the trial that the criminal is not a representatives of the organization and that similar aggressive.

behavior is not typical for the organization members.. http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/society/news/59637/jehovahs_witnesses_sue_ra_public_television.

alexised

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Free speech is a good value to the WTBTS. Free speech for others means a lawsuit. In common-law countries, truth is an absolute defense to libel. Armenia may not be the most enlightened nation. We don't know the facts but I don't see why reporters and producers would place themselves vulnerable to a lawsuit unless it were true.

The press here comments on notable's religion. For instance, so many Supreme Court justices being Roman Catholic is frequently discussed. I wonder who approved the lawsuit?

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What is the WTS take on Speaking in Tongues?

by Lion Cask in

this is a fairly worldly view, for those who haven't seen it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3be9wcawim.

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I was very, very ill, bordering on death, for decades. A friend heard good word of mouth about a faith healer. I am very Episcopolian and the Society's takes on demons had me terrified. She drew a large crowd of fairly sophisticated people. When medicine does not help you, you try to open your horizons. She sang some ok songs. Then people came forward to be slain in the spirit. Each person fell backwards in a slump. It looked choreographed. Normal people fall normally. People would come wtih scarves to cover the private parts of women that might be showing. This was not a Pentecostal crowd.

I went up. A priest assured me hynopsis was involved and I could not be hurt. My mind focused on demons. My mom, my friend and I went up. She reached out to me with her arms, ordering me to be slain. I felt absolutely nothing. My goal was to let loose of my inhibitions. My mom did not feel anything, my friend felt nothing. All around us a sea of people were being slain.

We were disappointed and wary. If I could have some hope for five minutes, it would be grand. I pondered why God created me unable to be hynoptized.

A high school classmate's father was a Pentecostal pastor. The hs girls flocked to his church b/c of crushes on boys. I noticed that no one spoke in tongues, until he revved up the anxiety letter. One person started,, soon I was the only one not doing it. Well, I was the only audience member. He stayed in control. He started going around to people, touching them, imploring them back to reality. He was fascinating. I was condemned for not speaking. Did I pray to God not to speak that night!

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Worlds Apart (Movie) now on Youtube

by Billen76 in

sara is a teenager who lives with her family, who are jehova's witnesses.

the family's devout image is questioned when the parents divorce as a consequence of the father's infidelity.

one night at a party sara meets teis, an older boy who takes an interest in her.

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You need a medical note to wear a beard. It is hilarious. And the Bible states expressly, Jehovah's Witnesses, the faithful and discreet slave, has authority to promulgate personal grooming rules in the Western hemisphere but not in Europe.

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Halal versus Kosher food - who knew it was so complex?

by james_woods in

somebody who lived in the middle east posted this on my ferrari board - i had no idea that these dietary laws went into such detail:.

the slaughter must be ritually done (in a religiously based ritual fashion) for halal that means the name of allah has to be invoked individually on each animal to be slaughtered where for kosher, it is sufficient to recite the name of god or grace once for the day for all slaughters.. .

islam considers the entire cattle or sheep as halal if duly slaughtered but jews use only the fore-quarter as kosher and consider the hind-quarter as non-kosher.. .

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Kitchens are problematic. Special burners were set aside as were refrigerator shelves. I believe contact with nonkosher food could contaminate it. There were also problems on Sabbath. The yeshiva girls would not use the electrical switches or use the phone. Therefore, they would wake a Christian student, me, to turn on the switch for them at 2 am in the morning. I could relay messages on the telephone. It drove me crazy but I also respected it.

Super orthodox had almost no contact with Christians. The school was a private, WASPy one. Yeshiva University was available. Columbia Law School evidently held mandatory classes on the Sabbath so these students would go elsewhere. My belief was why be exposed to a school with other religions present if you want to hold yourself out away from everyone.

The people most agitated by all the Orthodox rules were not Christians but secular Jews.